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April 11, 2024

Daddy Daddy Daughter Bookworms Review & Dive w/ Ms. Glynnis "Hello Universe" by Erin Entrada Kelly (Author) & Isabel Roxas (Illustrator)

Daddy Daddy Daughter Bookworms Review & Dive w/ Ms. Glynnis

Have you ever let a book's ending determine whether you'll read it through to the last page? Our conversation with the insightful Ms. Glynnis brings this unusual reading strategy to light, as we celebrate National Library Week with a journey through Erin Entrada Kelly's "Hello, Universe." Ms. Glynnis, with her deep understanding of storytelling, breaks down this multi-perspective narrative, guiding us through the five-finger retell method. Our exploration doesn't stop there—we delve into the book's heartfelt themes of friendship and acceptance, and ponder the liberating idea that not every book will win over your heart.

Ms. Glenda, a children's librarian with a storied career, from an amusing stint as a bra fitter at Macy's to igniting young imaginations at Sandwick Library, joins us to share her love for literary matchmaking. We weave personal anecdotes with the book's themes—analyzing dreams, confronting bullies, and embracing the beauty of diverse communication styles. Engage with us as we uncover the connections between dreams and reality, and discover how Ms. Glenda's favorite classic, "Harriet the Spy," can inspire your own reading adventures. Our chat is an open invitation to the curious souls seeking the perfect children's book or anyone eager to peek behind the library's curtain.

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Chapters

00:00 - Children's Book Discussion at Library

09:57 - Book Themes and Points of View

22:59 - Library Life and Book Recommendations

Transcript
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You're listening to the Daddy Daughter Bookworm sponsored by Care First Training Group, where we talk about children's books.

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Hello, bookworms.

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My name is Lucy.

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And I'm Alex, and today we have a special episode because we are at the library Isn't that right, lucy, mm-hmm?

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And we are celebrating part of National Library Week.

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We have a really good relationship with our librarian and we talked to Ms Glynnis and she helped us pick a book for today, isn't that right?

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Yep, and what's the name of that book, lucy, hello Universe, and who is the author?

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The author is Aaron Entrada Kelly.

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And who is the publisher?

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It's published by Greenwell Books out of New York City.

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Well, we're doing something a little different today, because we actually have Miss Glynnis here, who's the librarian, and we do have some people in the audience, but Miss Glynnis was nice enough to tell us not everybody might have read the book, right, Miss Glynnis?

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That's true.

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Not everybody have read the book.

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I read this book a long time ago, so I didn't get refreshed too.

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And you have a special way of kind of retelling the story, isn't that right?

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I do.

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We're going to do a five-finger retell.

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Okay.

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Well, why don't you walk us through a five-finger retell?

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Well, you've got five fingers.

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and there's five basic things we need to know about the book and this works for pretty much any book, mostly fiction.

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You might have to tweak it a little for nonfiction.

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And first one is the setting, then the characters, the problem, some events that happen in the book and the solution.

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Um so the setting of the book is well.

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Most of the most of the action happened in this book in one day, right after school ends is the first day of summer vacation, so that's the time when most of it happened.

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But most of the action happened in the woods and in the well.

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And then we have our characters.

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This book is interesting because it's from different characters' point of view.

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It's from Virgil's point of view, valencia, kenori, jen and Chet those are the points of view.

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And it's also interesting because most of those are the universal narrator, where the narrator is up there somewhere and they know what everybody's thinking.

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But Valencia is in the first person.

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Valencia is talking directly to us, so we only know what Valencia is thinking.

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Oh, really, is that different than other books that you usually read?

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You don't usually have two different points of view.

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I've read many books where you have different characters telling us what's going on, but you either have the first person or the third.

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You don't really mix them up, right, and that's interesting.

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So you know exactly what she's thinking.

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I do want to ask Lucy a question what type of genre is this, Lucy?

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It's a chapter book for upper elementary and middle school aged readers.

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There are illustrations by Isabel Roxas at the introduction of every chapter.

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Okay, and did we get through all five fingers, or did I miss one?

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Oh, we only got through two.

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Oh, my gosh, I can't even count today, I'm sorry.

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So let's get to number three, number three is the problem of the book.

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The problem of the book is that Chet, who's not nice and they tell us sometimes why he's not nice, Doesn't change the fact that he's not nice and he's not likable.

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But we understand why.

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The problem is that Chet has thrown Virgil's backpack down an empty well, which generally wouldn't be a problem except for the fact that who's inside the backpack?

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Luz?

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A guinea pig and his name is Gulliver, his pet guinea pig Gulliver.

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So he goes down into the well after it, and then there's a ladder going down but doesn't go all the way down, so he jumps down.

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But then, when he jumps down, he finds out that he's not tall enough to himself for us to get back out.

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So that's the problem, okay, and there's the problem.

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And there's different events in the book, beginning the middle and the end, where in the beginning we meet all the characters and then in the middle we meet in the woods and this happens, and then they talk about how he coped when he was in that well, because can you imagine how that's going to feel when you're down in the wells?

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And then the solution question is how, um the girls were able to get him out.

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It's really the story of the being beginning of the friendship, because all these people, they kind of knew each other but they weren't really friends.

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You know, you like people that, maybe somebody in another um class in your grade that you see, or somebody on the bus that gets off a stop or two ahead of you.

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You know them, but you're not really friends.

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This is the story of how they became friends.

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I'm not going to tell you the solution, just in case you want to read.

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Of course, that's the whole best part of it, right you?

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see I were talking about.

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Sometimes books get really long and it's okay if you don't like the book, If you don't like it, as long as you give it a couple of chapters.

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Every book is not for everybody.

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Sometimes you see the cover and you think it is, and it's not.

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It happens to me too sometimes.

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Can I tell you a secret?

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sure, sometimes I read the end of the book oh and then I decide whether I want to get there or not.

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It's if I'm reading a murder, I'm just like, oh you know what, maybe it's okay.

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Then nobody finds out I've murdered you, or okay.

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Sometimes I'll get to the end of the book and I was like, oh my gosh, the butler was his long lost brother.

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And then I have to go back and read it and find out.

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And now it all worked out.

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Yeah, but ever since the Harry Potter books came out, people think that since kids read that big, huge book, that they need to write a huge book.

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You don't need to do that.

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Sometimes I read books and I leave 100 pages off and the whole thing works out perfectly nicely and all tied up in a nice little bow.

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I don't even need to read those 100 pages and that makes me mad.

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I mean it's like really you're wasting my time.

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So don't do that.

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You're definitely, you want to get to the point, and sometimes you don't need to meander all up and down the hill.

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Exactly, exactly.

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So, lucy, when you saw the cover, what did you think about the cover?

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The thing that I noticed at first was the quote.

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Some friendships were meant to be In the beginning of the story.

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The characters do not know each other very well, but I knew from this quote that Virgil and Valencia would become friends.

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Now that I have finished the story, I see what the cover is all about.

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I see Virgil in the darkness.

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I also see Gann and Cowrie and Valencia and Sacred the dog out in the sunshine.

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There's more detail in the cover but I don't want to give too much away.

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Oh aye.

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So, Ms Atlantis, why?

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did you decide?

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to pick this book as a different book.

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This is a book that we read for a book group during the pandemic and it was all virtual and the kids that read it really loved this, and I decided well, you know what, I want to talk about it with actual kids in the room with me, so that's why I picked this one, and another reason was I could get it in paperback.

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Because, I wanted everybody to have one, so sometimes things aren't available.

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This one is available on Hoopla, which is one of our reading apps that you can download onto your phone or your tablet so you can listen to it or you can read it.

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I like to have the option for people to listen.

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It's not everybody.

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Everybody likes a great story.

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Not everybody wants to or is able to read a big story, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have a great story.

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Not everybody wants to or is able to read a big story, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have a big story.

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Well, as someone that is not a huge reader, I've read Harry Potter several times, but I've never actually opened up the book.

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And I want to tell everybody who's listening that audio books are not cheating.

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When you listen to a book.

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You can listen to a book two or three grade levels above your reading level, because you're listening.

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So, Lucy, how did you read this book?

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Well, I was using Audible this time, and it was narrated by Ramon de Uncampo and Amy Lynn Abelera.

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When did you listen to it?

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A lot of the time.

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When I was in bed with my mom and when I was driving up to Brooklyn for Easter.

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Yeah, we were trying to get it under the wire there to make sure that we got all the chapters, because it is a big book, isn't?

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it.

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How many chapters is it?

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There's 42 chapters, but they're short.

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No, I'm just saying it's not so much that, yes, there's 42 chapters, but you have to get through all the chapters and there's a lot that goes on.

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So, lucy, besides the less illustrations than you're used to, it's a more sophisticated book than you've read before, isn't that right?

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Yep.

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Was that a problem for you?

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Well, it's like one of the other books I've read.

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This book changes points of view every chapter.

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Some chapters are from Virgil's point of view and some are from Valencia's point of view, as well as a few other important characters.

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This was confusing in the second chapter when the person was talking.

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Suddenly it wasn't a boy but a girl.

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But once we got used to it, we noticed the voices changing.

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We got used to the voices changing.

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Listening to the book made it easier to realize the points of view they were, that the points of view were changing.

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It was the.

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Was the bully more sophisticated than you normally used to?

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Yes, he is Okay.

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Did you have any funny moments?

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Yes, I did.

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Yes, I did.

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Yes, because on the book there is a gold seal on this cover.

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I said how could this be a Caldecott book?

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It hardly has any picture.

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And then my mom laughed really loud and said it's because it's not a Caldecott winner, it's a Newbery Award winning book.

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Caldecott winning books are awarded for the best illustrations and Newbery winning books are awarded for the best stories.

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And in our library.

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This book is not from our library, but in our library.

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On the spine, all the Caldecott, newberry, geisel, all the award winners for the American Library Association Awards up here not NYA, I think have a big orange dot on the spine so you can just scan the shelves if you need an award winner.

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So there you go.

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It's an easier way to find those books.

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You know, one of the first themes that came out of the book was the dreams and the nightmares of the characters.

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You know, virgil noticed that the people in his dreams were really strange.

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In real life he knew they were perfectly well in the book as well in the book.

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Have you ever noticed that?

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at first I was certain that I knew the people in my dreams, but they were like mashups, like when my my summer camp randomly took place in the field of my school.

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But after I listened to Virgil talking about the dreams, I did notice that the people in my dreams were strangers to me.

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When I was awake it didn't seem like strange at all when I was with them in my dream that's awesome.

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So can you tell me more about the hard things that Virgil has to tell his parents?

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Virgil really hates that his parents call him Turtle.

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They say that because he's quiet and doesn't want to come out of his shell.

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That means he's very shy and afraid of everything.

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Virgil wants to call them by his name or his nickname, Bayani, which means hero.

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Virgil is fine the way he is.

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I want everybody to know you're fine, you're perfect, you're made who you're supposed to be.

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And if other people don't like that, that's not your problem, that's their problem and they need to get over it.

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And it's hard to tell your parents something like that and I can get how he didn't want to stand up to them.

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But he's perfect.

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He was perfect the way he was.

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He was exactly who he was supposed to be, exactly at the time where he was supposed to be.

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It Right.

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You know it's kind of interesting because in a lot of long strokes that we had had there's always a bully right.

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And this was a different kind of bully, wasn't it?

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Yeah.

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And you really didn't like this bully, mm-hmm, and you don't have to explain what he did, but he used a lot of hurtful words, right, mm-hmm, and you didn't like that, did you?

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No, we talked about that.

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Okay, and that's some of the things that as a kid growing up, we hear these things, and it's great that you know the difference between the hurtful words and the good words.

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Right?

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Yep, yep, okay.

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In this book, which is something you don't see in a lot of books about the bully.

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You kind of see why he's the way he is Right bully.

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You kind of see why he's the way he is Because his dad is like oh, people won't respect you if you're weak, or the only way you can get respect is to put other people down or be mean to people.

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That's not cool.

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But he wanted his father to respect him.

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He wanted his father to love him, so he did that and that wasn't cool.

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Now one of the other things in the book, because we've read a couple of different books with bullies in them.

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It seems like some of them are rich and some of them and the people that they're bullying are not so rich.

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Do you think that's like that in real life?

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Do you think always bullies are rich?

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No.

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You think anybody can be a bully?

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Yeah, but you shouldn't be a bully.

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It doesn't matter how much money you have.

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Right, exactly, and I think and I think that's an important point, that that they, that that we talk about, because you know in this particular book, the, the the bully happens to be a certain way, but that's not always the case.

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All right, and always tell how they are by how they look.

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Absolutely.

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You can never.

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What is it?

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Judge a book by its cover.

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Judge a book by its cover.

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And that said, valencia had some easy rules to help kids to communicate with her.

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Do you remember any of them?

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Why does she need extra rules?

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What's Valencia's deal?

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She has hearing aids and she needs to.

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Other people need to do a few things to make sure that she can hear them clearly, and those things are you have to face her, don't cover your mouth and speak slowly.

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Even though Valencia has hearing aids, she didn't hear very clearly.

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She had to put lip reading and what she heard together like a puzzle.

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Exactly, and I just want to take a quick second to remind people.

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If you are listening to this, you can always get us on daddydaughterbookwormscom and you can also check us out on all the podcast forums as well as our YouTube channel, and I know we have a live audience here.

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And if anybody had any questions about a specific part of the book, we do have a mic that you can ask a question to Ms Glenis or Lucy, so you can come on up at any time if you'd like.

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But, that said, another theme that comes up in the book is destiny and consequence, and are there any things that or do you think that's true?

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Do you think there is destiny or a consequence?

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I mean, they talk about the fortune teller and Cowrie.

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Yeah, a kid fortune teller.

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A kid fortune teller.

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She thinks she's a fortune teller.

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So funny.

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Do you think she's a?

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fortune teller Lucy Eh.

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I feel like she is, but I also feel like she isn't, so I don't know.

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You don't know, I don't know.

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Maybe she has a little bit of the gift, maybe she needs the confidence to do what needs to be done.

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Sometimes that's all you need.

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I know.

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So, Lucy, is there any other things that we didn't cover?

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Or, Ms Glennis, is there anything else that you'd like to cover about this book?

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so many things oh, there are.

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Okay, I'm sorry but I'm gonna gonna take a while the time.

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Does anybody have questions before?

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I start asking can you come up?

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here you are allowed to keep the book plus mail mail oh, okay, that's an awesome question.

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That's, that's it.

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Uh, what else?

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What else do you have about the book the?

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Well, yes, I know that's one of lucy's favorite parts.

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I found out, well, when I was having cataract surgery that I'm a tight claustrophobic.

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Really.

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Yes, it's like they went to drip my face and I freaked out Right and they're like okay, we won't let it touch your face, so the air can go over you.

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And I do find that ever since I was a kid, it's like okay, there's not enough air in here, so I don't know.

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It's like OK, there's not enough air in here.

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So I don't know how wide that well was, but I think that is a part that would have kind of freaked me out.

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It's like not being down in the well.

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It's just like OK, there's not enough air down here.

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Right.

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So and you didn't like it and it's probably dark down there and with the lid closed and with the lid closed and with the lid closed.

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Valencia.

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She couldn't hear very well.

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Virgil was in the well and he heard her coming right, Mm-hmm.

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And she sees the well.

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This was a well on the ground, not like the one that you had to with the bucket that you had to crank up.

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It was on the ground so it had a cover and the cover was off of the well, I guess, like a big wooden thing, kind of like a manhole cover type thing, and there were animals in the woods.

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So Valencia goes oh, the cover is off this, well, I'll put it back so the animals don't fall in.

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But she couldn't hear Virgil yelling down the well because she's dead.

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So she put the cover on the well and that would have freaked me out.

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Then I was like, okay, we're done here.

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Absolutely, I'm with you.

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I don't want any covered wells.

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That would have been bad.

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That's when I was like, oh no, what's going to happen.

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That's when I kind of got started to get a little upset, but then it's faster because you need to know how to do it, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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Yes, so this all took place in Lase the beginning of the day, both Virgil and Valencia had appointments with Kaori the fortune teller Virgil didn't show up, valencia did, but they're like hey, he's never late, where is this?

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So they went looking for him and they found Chet in the forest.

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So what happened?

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I remember what happened.

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They heard him screaming because he got beat up by a snake.

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But I don't think it was a snake.

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Well, it was a snake?

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Well, it wasn't a snake and he was probably bothering her anyway.

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So so, and at the end of the story, well, virgil does end up getting out of it.

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Okay, I'm not going to tell you how it happened, but the girls and Virgil just didn't finally have enough of shit.

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They're like you know what we're done with you, and they stood up to him, and sometimes that's all you need to do to a boy.

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It's not easy to do.

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But they had each other.

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So they were like you know what?

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You've been teasing us all school year.

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It's not going to happen again.

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And they stood up to him and he's like, oh okay.

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And he just kind of left left.

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So, lucy, would you recommend this book.

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I would recommend this book for third, third, sixth graders Okay.

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So I mean, I mean thumbs up with it.

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Yeah, I find that it's best.

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Five books and one more.

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One of the worst, and you know me.

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You know me If you don't like it you don't have to like it, it's okay, I know.

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Or do you want to do it at a 10?

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You don't have.

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You like the life of other people, did you like yourself?

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Yes, I did Okay.

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I would probably give it like four, three, four, four and a half.

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You know what I would have liked?

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I would have given it another thumbs up for that the story that Virgil's Lola, his grandma, told I would have liked maybe a little more footnotes or something about them, and because they were stories that I was interested in but I didn't know about Right right.

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So I would like to know more about the folktales.

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Do you have a question, babe?

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Okay, come on, come on.

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Was Virgil or Chet the one who went and fell in the well.

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Okay, Chet moved Virgil's backpack into the well.

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And then Virgil had to get the backpack down the well.

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It's a lot to keep track of.

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Yeah, yeah, it's very confusing if you're just hearing this and you didn't read the book.

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It was a little tricky.

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In the book it was a little tricky.

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I have a sheet.

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Sometimes it's constant.

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This is when I'm going to talk about a book because my brain goes all over and it starts going into left foot.

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I'm the person that you don't want to go to the movies with, because when they're telling a story about what's a good one to talk about oh, let's say, we're watching that you don't want to go to the movies with, because when they're telling the story about what's a good one to tell oh, let's say we're watching, say, charlie and the Chocolate Factory and everything's going on and I was like okay, but is there anything karma-filled?

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Or things like that.

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Just odd things.

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It's like what about grandma and grandpa back at the house?

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And then my friends get horribly annoyed with me because it's like can you not just watch the movie that they're showing you?

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And I can't.

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So, ms Glenda, since we have you here and we have a couple of library questions for you, I'm here.

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Okay.

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So, so special guest in the back is Miss Jewel from YA.

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Oh, okay, it's by the purple wall, and when you graduate from up here, that's where you're going to go.

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Okay, I didn't realize that.

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Um so, how old have you been a librarian?

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I had the first, my first librarian job.

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Well before my first librarian job, I worked at Macy's and I was a bra fitter, so I had to do reference questions.

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It's like what dress are you wearing?

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You know, what do we need this for?

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And then in 1990, I started working in Sandwick Library and I was the person who put back the books.

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Okay, I loved it Did you.

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Yes, and then I got a master's degree and I started working.

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And then I got promoted to the children's library at Sandwood, okay.

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Then I started working in New Brunswick.

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I worked there for a couple years.

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Not a great fit I like small libraries better than bigger ones but I had to go there and do that before I realized that Right.

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And then I came here in april.

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If I want to say 97, though, lucy, do you have a question for miss glennis?

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yes, um what was your favorite book, like when you were growing up, my favorite book when I was growing up, and this book that if I'm stressed out now and I need to calm down, is Harriet the Spy.

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Oh, really Okay.

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Because I was that kid who was like kind of off to the side, was watching everything.

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I didn't take notes on my neighbors but, I did journal, Right.

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That makes me feel better.

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It's like when I'm in a big room or something I want to be somewhere.

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I'm sitting in that corner over there so I can see what's going on and judge what's going on.

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Why did you pick children's librarian as opposed to?

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It's just where I ended up, and I love children's books, but when I went to family.

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That's where I ended up.

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Oh, okay, so it just worked out.

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If you're a little person, even if you're a big person, you want to get a just right book.

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If you want to do the five-finger thing again, if there's five words on the page not proper nouns or names there's five words on the page that you can't read, that book's a little too hard for you and you don't want to frustrate yourself.

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But find something you're interested in.

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I mean, if you like cooking, get out a cookbook.

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I always like to take out magazines.

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That's the most recent information on the subject, because a lot of them are monthly.

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You can download magazines from the Hoopla or the Libby and that's a short read.

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You don't have to finish a book.

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Get yourself a book and read a couple pages, you're done.

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You don't have to finish it.

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The book doesn't care if you don't read it in a day.

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If you don't like it, the book is not going to get insulted.

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If you don't like it, bring it back.

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We've got more.

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Just keep trying, and last summer we gave out little booklets.

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If there's words that you don't understand, write them down.

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There's still words that I don't, that I'm like, okay, I don't even know what that means, so you write it down, you find out what it means and that might make your story better.

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And not everybody knows everything and every book is not for everybody.

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So if everybody's reading the greatest, greatest thing, it might not be great for you.

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You just got to find what works.

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You can always ask the librarian, ask your friends, Ask your teacher.

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What have you been reading?

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Just browse through things.

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Well, I want to thank you the most willingness and the rest of the Natasha Library because you've been helpful to get this event and hopefully the start of a bunch of different episodes this event and hopefully the start of a bunch of different episodes here at the library and I know how much Lucy loves the library and it has a lot to do with you.

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Oh, that's nice to hear.

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Next time she gets to pick a book.

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Next time she'll get to pick a book.

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Very, very excited.

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I bet you are.

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But, before we go.

00:28:01.397 --> 00:28:05.820
Lucy, why don't you tell the listeners how they can get the book if they want to buy it?

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They can buy the book at the local children's bookstore, or they can go to our show notes where we have a link.

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00:28:33.555 --> 00:28:38.146
Well folks, I just want to thank everybody for taking the time to listen to our show.

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It is National Library Week, which is April 7th through 13th.

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I know the Touch of Library is going to be doing a big raffle and I know you guys always have something going on.

00:28:50.163 --> 00:28:56.365
You have a full schedule and the best thing about the library is you can make out a book rating rate.

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And we're having a fine forgiveness week during National Library Month too, oh, what's that.

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So if you have some book fines, come in and we'll erase your fines, not for destroyed books or something like that, but if you have overdue fees, if you're overdue fees and somebody in the audience is very happy about that.

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I feel like that is's very happy about that and I think that is more happy about that.

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So yeah, if you got that DVD that you forgot to bring back for a weekend, wrapped up to $7 worth of fines, come in, we'll erase it for you.

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Well, thank you so much again, linus, and I just want to say it has been so much fun doing this in person.

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Thanks for having me on my friends.

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Well, I'm so glad that the tens of people that I've saved will show up today.

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It's really fun.

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We get to kind of share something live, and thank you for listening to our show.

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My name is Alex.

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And I'm Lucy and see you soon, bookworms.